new member and fairly new encoder

Jan 31, 2015 at 8:42 PM
Edited Jan 31, 2015 at 8:44 PM
Hi to all and thanks for making a great encoding product. I have encoded some videos in the past with 2 applications, handbrake and vidcoder. I had always used the default settings by the 2 people who taught me; one for each app. The encodes, especially with vidcoder turned out really nice.

Then I made a crucial mistake LOL I started playing around with the settings and I am not sure if I have tweaked them too far or not. I am having a small problem with my most recent encode and I could sure use some advice. I will post my mediainfo here for the encode which I did with vidcoder. The source was:

1080p TW Blu-ray AVC DTS-HD MA 5 1
RELEASE SIZE..: 18.7 GiB
RUNTIME.......: 1h 51 mn
FRAMERATE.....: 24.000 fps
BITRATE.......: 22476 kbps
RESOLUTION....: 1920 x 1080
AUDIO.........: DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 1433 kbps

The encoded film looks pretty good I think. But the screenshots are puzzling me. When I take a snapshot with splashpro as I always have, it turned out 1280x720 and looked really stretched vertically. When I took a snap with vlc it looks good, but it is 1728x720. Is that the proper dimensions for my screens?

Here are my encode settings:
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 3.90 GiB
Duration : 1h 51mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 4 992 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2015-01-30 11:04:09
Tagged date : UTC 2015-01-30 11:37:48
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.9 2013051800

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 51mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 540 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 23.810 fps
Maximum frame rate : 24.318 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.205
Stream size : 3.55 GiB (91%)
Writing library : x264 core 130 r2273 b3065e6
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4540 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=62500 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2015-01-30 11:04:09
Tagged date : UTC 2015-01-30 11:37:48
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 51mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 805 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 83ms
Stream size : 358 MiB (9%)
Encoded date : UTC 2015-01-30 11:04:09
Tagged date : UTC 2015-01-30 11:37:48

I hope I havent over-stepped my bounds here on my first post lol But I am trying to learn. Can you please make some recommendations about the encode from the settings and what about those screenshots? Thank you much :)
Coordinator
Jan 31, 2015 at 8:52 PM
Can you post an encode log to pastebin? It's possible it might just be an issue with the players you're using to take screenshots.
Jan 31, 2015 at 8:57 PM
Thank you so much for the fast reply. I am new so please forgive me; I do not know what an encode log is, or a pastebin. My apologies :(

Remember that it takes only one person or one idea to change your life...Dr Mike

Coordinator
Jan 31, 2015 at 9:03 PM
Windows -> Log -> Copy.

For the second part:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pastebin
Jan 31, 2015 at 9:05 PM
Edited Jan 31, 2015 at 9:06 PM
Ok..Google is your friend, I just found a pastebin site. I can sign up there and I guess I need to find where to get the encode log. Working on that now if I dont hear from you before :0 Thanks.

LOL that was fast... ! sec please
Jan 31, 2015 at 9:28 PM
sorry. I have been searching google for about 30 min now and I still dont know how to create a encode log. Is that what I have posted above? My encode settings? Thanks.
Coordinator
Jan 31, 2015 at 9:37 PM
Windows -> Log -> Copy
Jan 31, 2015 at 9:42 PM
Edited Jan 31, 2015 at 9:50 PM
RandomEngy wrote:
Windows -> Log -> Copy
I am looking for windows log now.. I have never had to use that before
I see an event viewer on my local machine.
Ok... I think I found what you need... it is in the app data vidcoder event log?
Coordinator
Jan 31, 2015 at 9:55 PM
There is a menu option at the top of VidCoder's main window that's labeled "Windows".
Jan 31, 2015 at 9:56 PM
Ok... I am worn out. Been a long week and I know you are busy too.. I will work on this some more on Monday after I learn a little more about posting logs.
Thank you so much for your time and patience. I will check back in on Monday, or maybe tomorrow :)
Jan 31, 2015 at 9:58 PM
RandomEngy wrote:
There is a menu option at the top of VidCoder's main window that's labeled "Windows".
ok...found it. thanks...lets see if I can get it in pastebin now.. 1 sec
Jan 31, 2015 at 9:59 PM
Edited Jan 31, 2015 at 10:00 PM
ok.. there seems to be something in pastebin now..hope it helps
Jan 31, 2015 at 10:05 PM
Edited Jan 31, 2015 at 10:47 PM
I may have goofed up on 1st paste.. I did not have the file loaded in vidcoder?
So I loaded it in and did 2nd pastebin titled ... 2nd paste 720P
And to be honest, I dont know if I changed those settings before that encode...sorry if I am goofing you up.
I thot I could post the mediainfo above to get my answers:( sorry.
Jan 31, 2015 at 10:11 PM
gonna eat some dinner, will check back in 30 min or so
Coordinator
Jan 31, 2015 at 10:22 PM
You have to post a link to the pasted log. I'm not going to find your log among the thousands of other pasted entries.
Jan 31, 2015 at 10:45 PM
RandomEngy wrote:
You have to post a link to the pasted log. I'm not going to find your log among the thousands of other pasted entries.
Sorry... http://pastebin.com/5L9dfaPg
Coordinator
Jan 31, 2015 at 10:47 PM
That's a scan log. Can you post a log from after you've done an encode? That would actually tell me what kind of picture dimensions you're using.
Jan 31, 2015 at 10:55 PM
Edited Jan 31, 2015 at 10:55 PM
RandomEngy wrote:
That's a scan log. Can you post a log from after you've done an encode? That would actually tell me what kind of picture dimensions you're using.
Yes Ok. Do you want me to do a new encode now, I need to do another anyway. And then post the log that is in windows log after the encode is done?
Jan 31, 2015 at 11:10 PM
OK I am doing a new encode..it should be done in about 90 min.... I will post back the log from that one.. Thanks for all your help...really thanks :)
Feb 1, 2015 at 12:58 AM
Edited Feb 1, 2015 at 1:06 AM
new encode http://pastebin.com/cAbqWdVv

wow...that is a horrible encode:

Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3.692 <<< as much black bar as I do video :(
Feb 1, 2015 at 1:16 AM
What I was trying to do was take a 12 gb 1080 down to about 4gb or so H264 Mp4 AAC
something like this:
Format : MPEG-4
File size : 3.90 GiB
Duration : 1h 44mn
Overall bit rate : 5 366 Kbps

Format : AVC
Format profile : Main@L4.1 Bit rate : 4 912 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 532 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps

Format : AAC
Bit rate : 447 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 670 Kbps
Original Channel count : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

I have no idea what I did wrong
Coordinator
Feb 1, 2015 at 2:19 AM
Looks like you've specified Custom Anamorphic. I'd stay away from that and use Loose Anamorphic instead.
Feb 1, 2015 at 10:05 AM
RandomEngy wrote:
Looks like you've specified Custom Anamorphic. I'd stay away from that and use Loose Anamorphic instead.
Ok thanks a bunch...gonna re-encode it right now...will let you know :)
Feb 1, 2015 at 11:21 AM
Edited Feb 1, 2015 at 11:56 AM
Ok buddy... here is new encode with loose settings http://pastebin.com/F3j5pCfh
It looks good to me, but I was wondering if you would change anything ?
Your help and time is appreciated :)
I see that the screens look good. The final video came out 2.2GB. I was hoping to have it be about 4GB. Would I gain anything by making it larger?
What are your recommendations?
Thanks
Coordinator
Feb 1, 2015 at 1:32 PM
You've got a quality target of 20, so the picture should be looking pretty good. Sometimes when using Constant Quality encoding sources compress really well and you can just get away with a smaller file; I don't think you'd gain much by making it larger.
Feb 1, 2015 at 7:55 PM
Edited Feb 1, 2015 at 10:32 PM
thank you for your input...I couldnt have done it w/o you :)
The only other thing I might like to see is a little more height in the picture? It is 532 now and would like a little closer to the standard 720 ? What do you think?
Oh and BTW... I will be making a donation to your Malaria foundation tomorrow... thanks for that too :)
Remember that it takes only one person or one idea to change your life...Dr Mike
Coordinator
Feb 2, 2015 at 5:32 AM
I think you're best off doing Loose Anamorphic and automatic cropping. If you're cropping from the top and bottom a height of less than 720 is expected.
Feb 2, 2015 at 9:54 AM
Thank you.... I have learned much from you in this thread. I will not hesitate to come back if I need help in the future.
See ya around and keep up the good work :)